Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Chagall's Windows at All Saints Church, Tudeley

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Files in Category:Chagall's Windows at All Saints Church, Tudeley[edit]

Marc Chagall, the painter of the stained glass windows died in 1985 and the United Kingdom has a standard of life plus 70 years and COM:FOP United Kingdom only applies for places permanently accessible to the public. The All Saints church in Tudeley has opening hours and is not permanently accessible to the public. I suggest to undelete in 2056.

Paradise Chronicle (talk) 13:20, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]


  •  Keep All. The nomination misrepresents UK law. [1] The requirement for FOP to apply is that they are if permanently situated in a public place or in premises open to the public. This refers to places that are open, it is not qualified by such a place having reasonable opening hours. The 'permanent' qualifier refers to them being affixed or placed so as to be on permanent display without any planned termination (i.e. a temporary exhibition). Andy Dingley (talk) 14:24, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    But they are not permanently in a place that is open. At night the church is closed. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 14:58, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Jesus… RodRabelo7 (talk) 15:10, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    The explanation about the permanent qualifier is not in the link you gave. Neither is it in FOP UK. And if a place is closed temporarily (as for example in the night) it is not open to the public permanently. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 15:40, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, the church is open to the public basically as much time as any normal visit could be imagined, and it will continue permanently. Nearly every place that is permanently open is shut in the night. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:47, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep COM:CRT/UK Clearly states The practical effect of the broad Freedom of Panorama provisions in the UK and in other countries with similar laws is that it is acceptable to upload to Commons not only photographs of public buildings and sculptures but also works of artistic craftsmanship which are on permanent public display in museums, galleries and exhibitions which are open to the public. According to Copinger and Skone James, the expression "open to the public" presumably extends the section to premises to which the public are admitted only on licence or on payment.[15] Again, this is broader than 'public place', which is the wording in many countries.. And since museums aren't open to the public at all times, churches do not need to be, either. --PaterMcFly (talk) 19:16, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    My nomination seems like a lost cause ː) I'd prefer to see Freedom of Panorama applies to museums etc. permanently open to the public. But also as I researched to find something similar, I couldn't find anything. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 23:31, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: per discussion. --Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:09, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]